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Chloroquine: Phenobarbital + Fast acting benzo
Anonymous
2010-06-07 11:03:35 UTC
For the Chloroquine Coctail, is using Phenobarbital, is a fast acting
benzo also required? Or is Phenobarbital sufficient on its own?

Thanks
lolhax
2010-06-07 11:12:29 UTC
Post by Anonymous
For the Chloroquine Coctail, is using Phenobarbital, is a fast acting
benzo also required? Or is Phenobarbital sufficient on its own?
Thanks
yes you'll need a fast acting benzo
California Psychopomp
2010-06-07 11:35:57 UTC
If you use enough Phenobarbital it should be sufficient, however even 10
grams can take up to 30 minutes to induce a loss of consciousness.

Adding a fast-acting Benzodiazepine such as Midazolam (Dormicum) will
put you to sleep much more quickly than Phenobarbital alone would.

But if you are using only Phenobarbital as your sleep-aid you might want
to swallow it first and then wait 10-15 minutes before swallowing the
Chloroquine tablets.

If you place the Chloroquine tablets (intact) into gelatin or vegetable
capsules it may slow down their absorption for a few more minutes. It
will also be tasteless when you swallow the Chloroquine tablets inside
capsules.
lolhax
2010-06-07 12:11:29 UTC
Post by California Psychopomp
If you use enough Phenobarbital it should be sufficient, however even 10
grams can take up to 30 minutes to induce a loss of consciousness.  
Adding a fast-acting Benzodiazepine such as Midazolam (Dormicum) will
put you to sleep much more quickly than Phenobarbital alone would.
But if you are using only Phenobarbital as your sleep-aid you might want
to swallow it first and then wait 10-15 minutes before swallowing the
Chloroquine tablets.
If you place the Chloroquine tablets (intact) into gelatin or vegetable
capsules it may slow down their absorption for a few more minutes.  It
will also be tasteless when you swallow the Chloroquine tablets inside
capsules.
but it is unpredictable and if the chloroquine kicks in before the
pheno does, you will experience a painful death
alex82
2010-06-07 17:13:52 UTC
Dormicum is said that's a fast acting benzo! But when i take 1-2 of
them i feel the first effects maybe 40minutes after. Same like normal
benzos like lorazepam...

I don't think its faster, and i'm also worry about when the
chloroquine, ore darvon will act before the benzos doe.
lolhax
2010-06-07 17:19:41 UTC
Post by alex82
Dormicum is said that's a fast acting benzo! But when i take 1-2 of
them i feel the first effects maybe 40minutes after. Same like normal
benzos like lorazepam...
I don't think its faster, and i'm also worry about when the
chloroquine, ore darvon will act before the benzos doe.
thats strange, sounds like what you got is not dormicum
California Psychopomp
2010-06-07 17:56:55 UTC
Midazoalm (Dormicum) comes in two tablet sizes: 7.5 mg and 15 mg. The
former is for senior citizens.

There is a big difference in strength between 15 mg of Dormicum and 300
mg!

Of course, having a benzodiazepine tolerance will also make a
difference.

Feel free to use whatever Benzodiazepine you want. Even Zolpidem
(Ambien) is okay if that is your preference.
alex82
2010-06-07 19:22:46 UTC
Midazoalm (Dormicum) comes in two tablet sizes:  7.5 mg and 15 mg.  The
former is for senior citizens.  
There is a big difference in strength between 15 mg of Dormicum and 300
mg!
Of course, having a benzodiazepine tolerance will also make a
difference.  
Feel free to use whatever Benzodiazepine you want.  Even Zolpidem
(Ambien) is okay if that is your preference.
Of cource it's very stronger, but maybe it will work not until 30-40min
California Psychopomp
2010-06-08 06:00:11 UTC
If you only have Phenobaribital you can do this:

Ingest 1 gram of Phenobarbital and wait fifteen minutes before you
ingest the rest of your Phenobarbital. Immediately after ingest your
Chloroquine.

The 1 gram of Phenobarbital should be enough to get you to sleep within
15 minutes after you've swallowed the rest of the drug cocktail, but it
shouldn't be strong enough to force you to sleep against your will
before then.