My experience with Potassium Cyanide Method

[ForMyMoms]

I had 25gms of Potassium Cyanide and tried the method where you
dissolve 1.5g in water and drink last night. Obviously I was
unsuccessful...the reason is because I could not scarf down the liquid
because it was too noxious.

I was also a little scared of how it might feel. So to test, I poured
a cup of Sprite into an 8oz styrofoam cup and put what amounts to
maybe 1mg (like one sprinkle from a salt shaker) into the cup. It
immediately fizzed and dissolved. I could drink this because the
bitter flavor and the slight numbing/burning sensation was not so
noticeable.

Let me tell you, I did not even drink the whole 8oz, just maybe 4oz.
before I started getting sick. My vision changed a little (as if
someone had dimmed the lights) and I began to feel as if I had just
inhaled a bunch of helium or glue. I did not lose consciousness,
probably because of the tiny amount. I did become nauseous and threw
up all the liquid I had been drinking. After I threw up my whole body
started to feel the same numbness that my nose had felt and it was
very uncomfortable because no matter how you move, you can't make
yourself feel better, so you suffer with this numb, cannot relax your
muscles, feeling. Luckily, this feeling did not last long and I
started to feel basically normal again. The whole thing lasted about
15min.

Dissolved potassium cyanide begins to work the instant you start
trying to swallow it. The first reaction is the slight burn/numbing
feeling you get as it hits your tongue and mouth. The next feeling is
you start to feel a little of the numbness in your nose as you
continue breathing. The next feeling hits the head as the KCN starts
taking you down.

I did not go unconscious, maybe I would have if I had taken more.
But, I think that dying from KCN poisoning is very uncomfortable with
the nausea unless you do go unconscious.

I have read that you could lose consciousness in a couple of minutes
if you take 200 to 1500mg of the stuff. I have placed some of the KCN
in some gelcaps that I bought from the health food store.

Maybe this will allow me to ingest the necessary 1.5g, but I am scared
of it not making me unconscious instantly.

Does anyone else have any experience or suggestions with this?

[leeana]

Post by ForMyMoms
I had 25gms of Potassium Cyanide and tried the method where you
dissolve 1.5g in water and drink last night.  Obviously I was
unsuccessful...the reason is because I could not scarf down the liquid
because it was too noxious.
I was also a little scared of how it might feel.  So to test, I poured
a cup of Sprite into an 8oz styrofoam cup and put what amounts to
maybe 1mg (like one sprinkle from a salt shaker) into the cup.  It
immediately fizzed and dissolved.  I could drink this because the
bitter flavor and the slight numbing/burning sensation was not so
noticeable.
Let me tell you, I did not even drink the whole 8oz, just maybe 4oz.
before I started getting sick.  My vision changed a little (as if
someone had dimmed the lights) and I began to feel as if I had just
inhaled a bunch of helium or glue.  I did not lose consciousness,
probably because of the tiny amount.  I did become nauseous and threw
up all the liquid I had been drinking.  After I threw up my whole body
started to feel the same numbness that my nose had felt and it was
very uncomfortable because no matter how you move, you can't make
yourself feel better, so you suffer with this numb, cannot relax your
muscles, feeling.  Luckily, this feeling did not last long and I
started to feel basically normal again.  The whole thing lasted about
15min.
Dissolved potassium cyanide begins to work the instant you start
trying to swallow it.  The first reaction is the slight burn/numbing
feeling you get as it hits your tongue and mouth.  The next feeling is
you start to feel a little of the numbness in your nose as you
continue breathing.  The next feeling hits the head as the KCN starts
taking you down.
I did not go unconscious, maybe I would have if I had taken more.
But, I think that dying from KCN poisoning is very uncomfortable with
the nausea unless you do go unconscious.
I have read that you could lose consciousness in a couple of minutes
if you take 200 to 1500mg of the stuff.  I have placed some of the KCN
in some gelcaps that I bought from the health food store.
Maybe this will allow me to ingest the necessary 1.5g, but I am scared
of it not making me unconscious instantly.
Does anyone else have any experience or suggestions with this?

Everything i looked up says that a lethal dose is 200-300 mg. What's
this about 1.5 grams?

You really want to go by cyanide? It's what Jim Jones fed to his
'followers'. I've heard the tape of their deaths and it sounds
agonizing.

[ForMyMoms]

Post by ForMyMoms
I had 25gms of Potassium Cyanide and tried the method where you
dissolve 1.5g in water and drink last night.  Obviously I was
unsuccessful...the reason is because I could not scarf down the liquid
because it was too noxious.
I was also a little scared of how it might feel.  So to test, I poured
a cup of Sprite into an 8oz styrofoam cup and put what amounts to
maybe 1mg (like one sprinkle from a salt shaker) into the cup.  It
immediately fizzed and dissolved.  I could drink this because the
bitter flavor and the slight numbing/burning sensation was not so
noticeable.
Let me tell you, I did not even drink the whole 8oz, just maybe 4oz.
before I started getting sick.  My vision changed a little (as if
someone had dimmed the lights) and I began to feel as if I had just
inhaled a bunch of helium or glue.  I did not lose consciousness,
probably because of the tiny amount.  I did become nauseous and threw
up all the liquid I had been drinking.  After I threw up my whole body
started to feel the same numbness that my nose had felt and it was
very uncomfortable because no matter how you move, you can't make
yourself feel better, so you suffer with this numb, cannot relax your
muscles, feeling.  Luckily, this feeling did not last long and I
started to feel basically normal again.  The whole thing lasted about
15min.
Dissolved potassium cyanide begins to work the instant you start
trying to swallow it.  The first reaction is the slight burn/numbing
feeling you get as it hits your tongue and mouth.  The next feeling is
you start to feel a little of the numbness in your nose as you
continue breathing.  The next feeling hits the head as the KCN starts
taking you down.
I did not go unconscious, maybe I would have if I had taken more.
But, I think that dying from KCN poisoning is very uncomfortable with
the nausea unless you do go unconscious.
I have read that you could lose consciousness in a couple of minutes
if you take 200 to 1500mg of the stuff.  I have placed some of the KCN
in some gelcaps that I bought from the health food store.
Maybe this will allow me to ingest the necessary 1.5g, but I am scared
of it not making me unconscious instantly.
Does anyone else have any experience or suggestions with this?

Everything i looked up says that a lethal dose is 200-300 mg.  What's
this about 1.5 grams?
You really want to go by cyanide?  It's what Jim Jones fed to his
'followers'.  I've heard the tape of their deaths and it sounds
agonizing.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

This is the information I got from one website:
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/suicideguide.htm
Potassium Cyanide (KCN) Consumption
If you've got some potassium cyanide, or know where you can get some,
then the following method may prove valuable):
Take a small glass of cold tap water; do not use mineral water, nor
any kind of juice or soda water, due to the acidity of such liquids.
Stir 1g (or 1.5g, at most) of potassium cyanide (KCN) into the water;
using more than recommended will likely cause burning of the throat
due to the acidity.
After about five minutes—this "waiting period" is important, as a
chemical reaction needs to take place—the KCN will be dissolved and
ready to drink (because it has turned into HCN). It remains drinkable
for a period of several hours, but not much more than that.
Once the concoction is drunk, consciousness will be lost within a
minute. There will be just time to rinse out the glass (to ensure that
no one else accidentally drinks from it—however, one could just as
easily put a big "Warning" label onto the glass, or throw it into a
corner or a fireplace, if one doesn't want to take the time) and lie
down. But beware—a person extremely weakened by illness might lose
consciousness within twenty seconds.
While in the coma, death will follow in fifteen to forty-five minutes,
depending on the physical strength of the person and whether the
stomach is full or empty (an empty stomach promotes faster death).
During the coma period, the dying person will breathe heavily or
snore, similarly to people who have taken a lethal dose of
barbiturates [See below.].
[Hans] Atrott notes that with a person who is seriously terminally
ill, death is so peaceful that often doctors do not detect suicide,
and sign the death certificate as being from natural causes.

—Final Exit, by Derek Humphry, The Hemlock Society, 1991, pp. 44-5.
This is also the German Society for Humane Dying's recommended suicide
method, as related by Derek Humphry. If anyone else has information we
can add to it, please let me know as a followup to this post

[Kalibasa]

Was it more the taste of the acidity that was a problem? They talk
about not using acidic solvents; what about using an alkaline one to
offset the acidity?

I'm just hypothesizing, don't know that it would work!

[ForMyMoms]

Post by Kalibasa
Was it more the taste of the acidity that was a problem? They talk
about not using acidic solvents; what about using an alkaline one to
offset the acidity?
I'm just hypothesizing, don't know that it would work!

It was the bitter taste. All I had was water with those single
packets of hawaiian punch you can get with aspartame as the
sweetener. It is just pretty strong stuff...I tried sipping it, and
that wasn't working either, it was just too bitter. So then I tried a
smaller amount, like only a sprinkle in some sprite. I managed to
drink the sprite, but it was obviously not effective, it only made me
sick.

Now I want to try gel caps and am worrying about how long it will take
the caps to dissolve.

[CTB to CTB]

Post by Kalibasa
Was it more the taste of the acidity that was a problem? They talk
about not using acidic solvents; what about using an alkaline one to
offset the acidity?
I'm just hypothesizing, don't know that it would work!

It was the bitter taste.  All I had was water with those single
packets of hawaiian punch you can get with aspartame as the
sweetener.  It is just pretty strong stuff...I tried sipping it, and
that wasn't working either, it was just too bitter.  So then I tried a
smaller amount, like only a sprinkle in some sprite.  I managed to
drink the sprite, but it was obviously not effective, it only made me
sick.
Now I want to try gel caps and am worrying about how long it will take
the caps to dissolve.

Fascinating! You've actually got the real stuff. I'd be really
concerned about how quick and peaceful I could make the exit too.
Have you ever researched the method where the cyanide is placed in a
capsule and you bight down on it to release the cyanide. Allot of
Nazis went with this method and from what I gather death was pretty
swift. Major hurdle - securing the KCN. Game point - figuring out
how to employ it. Really, you might have an easier time ctbing safely
with dynamite. I'm sure you'll figure something out, just hope you
can trust it to be swift and certain. Best of luck!

CTB

[ForMyMoms]

Post by Kalibasa
Was it more the taste of the acidity that was a problem? They talk
about not using acidic solvents; what about using an alkaline one to
offset the acidity?
I'm just hypothesizing, don't know that it would work!

It was the bitter taste.  All I had was water with those single
packets of hawaiian punch you can get with aspartame as the
sweetener.  It is just pretty strong stuff...I tried sipping it, and
that wasn't working either, it was just too bitter.  So then I tried a
smaller amount, like only a sprinkle in some sprite.  I managed to
drink the sprite, but it was obviously not effective, it only made me
sick.
Now I want to try gel caps and am worrying about how long it will take
the caps to dissolve.

Fascinating!  You've actually got the real stuff.  I'd be really
concerned about how quick and peaceful I could make the exit too.
Have you ever researched the method where the cyanide is placed in a
capsule and you bight down on it to release the cyanide.  Allot of
Nazis went with this method and from what I gather death was pretty
swift.  Major hurdle - securing the KCN.  Game point - figuring out
how to employ it.  Really, you might have an easier time ctbing safely
with dynamite.  I'm sure you'll figure something out, just hope you
can trust it to be swift and certain.  Best of luck!
CTB- Hide quoted text -
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I was thinking of that, and actually got some gelcaps from one of the
health food stores. Now I don't think I am going to use them. From
my experience so far, the potassium cyanide works really quick, I mean
I didn't have time to sit down from even drinking the little bit that
I did before it started taking effect and the light headedness came in
about a minute.

I am scared of the symptoms, though, so if I ingest with gelcaps I
could be caught off guard having to wait for the capsuls to dissolve
before the cyanide starts working. I want to be in as much control as
possible. Now that I know what it tastes like, I think I am going to
try drinking it again, only this time with less liquid, so I can drink
it down in one or two gulps.

I read a sight where it says ingesting 50 to 100mg of KCN will cause
almost immediate collapse. I read another site that mentioned the
progression of symptoms...:

http://www.vdh.state.va.us/epr/agents/chemicalagents/agents_chemical_cyanides.htm

At high concentrations, victims notice a sensation of throat
constriction, giddiness, confusion and decreased vision. A vice-like
gripping of the temples and pain in the back of the neck and chest may
occur. Unconsciousness follows and the individual falls. By this time,
continued exposure can be fatal within 2-3 minutes, preceded by brief
convulsions and respiratory failure. At lower but still lethal
concentrations, the severity of symptoms may increase over an hour or
more. Victims notice an immediate and progressive sense of warmth (due
to vasodilatation) with visible flushing. Prostration follows, with
nausea, vomiting, headache, dyspnea, and chest tightness.
Unconsciousness and asphyxia will follow if exposure continues. At
very high concentrations, hyperventilation is the main initial
symptom, followed by loss of consciousness, convulsions, and loss of
corneal reflex, with death caused by cardiac and/or respiratory arrest.

[leeana]

Post by ForMyMoms

Post by Kalibasa
Was it more the taste of the acidity that was a problem? They talk
about not using acidic solvents; what about using an alkaline one to
offset the acidity?
I'm just hypothesizing, don't know that it would work!

It was the bitter taste.  All I had was water with those single
packets of hawaiian punch you can get with aspartame as the
sweetener.  It is just pretty strong stuff...I tried sipping it, and
that wasn't working either, it was just too bitter.  So then I tried a
smaller amount, like only a sprinkle in some sprite.  I managed to
drink the sprite, but it was obviously not effective, it only made me
sick.
Now I want to try gel caps and am worrying about how long it will take
the caps to dissolve.

Fascinating!  You've actually got the real stuff.  I'd be really
concerned about how quick and peaceful I could make the exit too.
Have you ever researched the method where the cyanide is placed in a
capsule and you bight down on it to release the cyanide.  Allot of
Nazis went with this method and from what I gather death was pretty
swift.  Major hurdle - securing the KCN.  Game point - figuring out
how to employ it.  Really, you might have an easier time ctbing safely
with dynamite.  I'm sure you'll figure something out, just hope you
can trust it to be swift and certain.  Best of luck!
CTB- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I was thinking of that, and actually got some gelcaps from one of the
health food stores.  Now I don't think I am going to use them.  From
my experience so far, the potassium cyanide works really quick, I mean
I didn't have time to sit down from even drinking the little bit that
I did before it started taking effect and the light headedness came in
about a minute.
I am scared of the symptoms, though, so if I ingest with gelcaps I
could be caught off guard having to wait for the capsuls to dissolve
before the cyanide starts working.  I want to be in as much control as
possible.  Now that I know what it tastes like, I think I am going to
try drinking it again, only this time with less liquid, so I can drink
it down in one or two gulps.
I read a sight where it says ingesting 50 to 100mg of KCN will cause
almost immediate collapse.  I read another site that mentioned the
http://www.vdh.state.va.us/epr/agents/chemicalagents/agents_chemical_...
At high concentrations, victims notice a sensation of throat
constriction, giddiness, confusion and decreased vision. A vice-like
gripping of the temples and pain in the back of the neck and chest may
occur. Unconsciousness follows and the individual falls. By this time,
continued exposure can be fatal within 2-3 minutes, preceded by brief
convulsions and respiratory failure. At lower but still lethal
concentrations, the severity of symptoms may increase over an hour or
more. Victims notice an immediate and progressive sense of warmth (due
to vasodilatation) with visible flushing. Prostration follows, with
nausea, vomiting, headache, dyspnea, and chest tightness.
Unconsciousness and asphyxia will follow if exposure continues. At
very high concentrations, hyperventilation is the main initial
symptom, followed by loss of consciousness, convulsions, and loss of
corneal reflex, with death caused by cardiac and/or respiratory arrest.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Oh yeah, sounds pretty 'pain free' to me!!

[ForMyMoms]

Post by ForMyMoms

Post by Kalibasa
Was it more the taste of the acidity that was a problem? They talk
about not using acidic solvents; what about using an alkaline one to
offset the acidity?
I'm just hypothesizing, don't know that it would work!

It was the bitter taste.  All I had was water with those single
packets of hawaiian punch you can get with aspartame as the
sweetener.  It is just pretty strong stuff...I tried sipping it, and
that wasn't working either, it was just too bitter.  So then I tried a
smaller amount, like only a sprinkle in some sprite.  I managed to
drink the sprite, but it was obviously not effective, it only made me
sick.
Now I want to try gel caps and am worrying about how long it will take
the caps to dissolve.

Fascinating!  You've actually got the real stuff.  I'd be really
concerned about how quick and peaceful I could make the exit too.
Have you ever researched the method where the cyanide is placed in a
capsule and you bight down on it to release the cyanide.  Allot of
Nazis went with this method and from what I gather death was pretty
swift.  Major hurdle - securing the KCN.  Game point - figuring out
how to employ it.  Really, you might have an easier time ctbing safely
with dynamite.  I'm sure you'll figure something out, just hope you
can trust it to be swift and certain.  Best of luck!
CTB- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I was thinking of that, and actually got some gelcaps from one of the
health food stores.  Now I don't think I am going to use them.  From
my experience so far, the potassium cyanide works really quick, I mean
I didn't have time to sit down from even drinking the little bit that
I did before it started taking effect and the light headedness came in
about a minute.
I am scared of the symptoms, though, so if I ingest with gelcaps I
could be caught off guard having to wait for the capsuls to dissolve
before the cyanide starts working.  I want to be in as much control as
possible.  Now that I know what it tastes like, I think I am going to
try drinking it again, only this time with less liquid, so I can drink
it down in one or two gulps.
I read a sight where it says ingesting 50 to 100mg of KCN will cause
almost immediate collapse.  I read another site that mentioned the
http://www.vdh.state.va.us/epr/agents/chemicalagents/agents_chemical_...
At high concentrations, victims notice a sensation of throat
constriction, giddiness, confusion and decreased vision. A vice-like
gripping of the temples and pain in the back of the neck and chest may
occur. Unconsciousness follows and the individual falls. By this time,
continued exposure can be fatal within 2-3 minutes, preceded by brief
convulsions and respiratory failure. At lower but still lethal
concentrations, the severity of symptoms may increase over an hour or
more. Victims notice an immediate and progressive sense of warmth (due
to vasodilatation) with visible flushing. Prostration follows, with
nausea, vomiting, headache, dyspnea, and chest tightness.
Unconsciousness and asphyxia will follow if exposure continues. At
very high concentrations, hyperventilation is the main initial
symptom, followed by loss of consciousness, convulsions, and loss of
corneal reflex, with death caused by cardiac and/or respiratory arrest.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Oh yeah, sounds pretty 'pain free' to me!!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_fast_can_potassium_cyanide_kill_you

Here is another excerpt I found about how fast potassium cyanide
works. This one is particularly reassuring for me:

Potassium Cyanide is a soluble cyanide salt. When dissolved in water
it readily forms the cyanide ion, CN-.

Cyanide is not exceptional with regards to the amount needed to kill
you, 200mg (0.2grams) is the accepted oral lethal dose for an average
sized man. There are hundreds of other poisons which are more toxic,
Arsenic Oxide and Strychnine being just two common examples.

However, what makes cyanide so notorious is the speed that it acts.
Cyanides are amoungst the most fast acting poisons known, mainly
sodium cyanide and potassium cyanide as well as hydrogen cyanide.

As a hyperthetical example, if you wanted to kill yourself, you
wouldn't bother weighing out the toxic dose, you would just get a tea
spoon full and dissolve it in water and swallow it down. A rounded
teaspoon of potassium cyanide would hold about 50 times the amount
needed to kill you.

Upon swallowing such a solution, you would collapse almost immediately
and loose consiousness within 10-20 seconds. Death would follow in a
matter of minutes from cardiac arrest.

With such a massive dose taken, any medical assistance no matter how
aggressive would prove futile.

Dr Simon Horwell
------------------------------------------------------
I also downloaded Final Exit and Painless Pill. They have conflicting
views on KCN as a means of swift death which makes my decision that
much harder. But, Painless Pill says if you take enough, you are
almost guaranteed death and one that is painfree.

Of all the accounts of actual cases of suicide attempts that ended up
in the hospital, they all had boughts with loss of consciousness,
often speaking of being found collapsed or having to be brought back
to consciousness through treatment.

I think if I can get to a place where no one will try to help me too
soon, then I will be successful.

[CTB to CTB]

Post by ForMyMoms
Of all the accounts of actual cases of suicide attempts that ended up
in the hospital, they all had boughts with loss of consciousness,
often speaking of being found collapsed or having to be brought back
to consciousness through treatment.
I think if I can get to a place where no one will try to help me too
soon, then I will be successful.-

Sounds like if you use enough it won't make a difference if you're
rescued or not. Maybe go for overkill (pun intended) in a gelcap.

CTB

[ForMyMoms]

Post by CTB to CTB

Post by ForMyMoms
Of all the accounts of actual cases of suicide attempts that ended up
in the hospital, they all had boughts with loss of consciousness,
often speaking of being found collapsed or having to be brought back
to consciousness through treatment.
I think if I can get to a place where no one will try to help me too
soon, then I will be successful.-

Sounds like if you use enough it won't make a difference if you're
rescued or not.  Maybe go for overkill (pun intended) in a gelcap.
CTB

This is true, but I have been rescued before, and it was very
disappointing. I overdosed on Xanax, this is before I knew that it is
actually very hard to kill yourself with a benzodiazepine. Although I
took the pills in my room, I sleep walked out to the street and drove
my car a couple feet before running into another on (I was unconscious
during all this by the way). I woke up standing up with a a cop's
flashlight in my eyes. I passed out again and woke up in the
ambulance.

So, I am just worried about it...

I am just trying to reassure myself... I found this post to about
whether KCN is quick and painless:

http://www.justanswer.com/questions/3now-death-kcn-painful-peaceful

Once more than 3–4 mg of potassium cyanide is consumed, consciousness
is lost within one minute, sometimes within 10 seconds, depending on
the strength of the body's immunity and the amount of food present in
the stomach. After a span of about 45 minutes, the body goes into a
state of coma or deep sleep and the person may die within two hours if
not treated medically. During this period, convulsions may occur.
Death occurs mainly by cardiac arrest.

[Beacon of Truth and Light (maybe)]

Post by Kalibasa
Was it more the taste of the acidity that was a problem? They talk
about not using acidic solvents; what about using an alkaline one to
offset the acidity?
I'm just hypothesizing, don't know that it would work!

But I think that then it would chemically react....

[Panic in Blue]

What about injecting it?

[Beacon of Truth and Light (maybe)]

Post by Panic in Blue
What about injecting it?

Probably really, really painful... at a guess :(

[leeana]

Post by ForMyMoms
I had 25gms of Potassium Cyanide and tried the method where you
dissolve 1.5g in water and drink last night.  Obviously I was
unsuccessful...the reason is because I could not scarf down the liquid
because it was too noxious.
I was also a little scared of how it might feel.  So to test, I poured
a cup of Sprite into an 8oz styrofoam cup and put what amounts to
maybe 1mg (like one sprinkle from a salt shaker) into the cup.  It
immediately fizzed and dissolved.  I could drink this because the
bitter flavor and the slight numbing/burning sensation was not so
noticeable.
Let me tell you, I did not even drink the whole 8oz, just maybe 4oz.
before I started getting sick.  My vision changed a little (as if
someone had dimmed the lights) and I began to feel as if I had just
inhaled a bunch of helium or glue.  I did not lose consciousness,
probably because of the tiny amount.  I did become nauseous and threw
up all the liquid I had been drinking.  After I threw up my whole body
started to feel the same numbness that my nose had felt and it was
very uncomfortable because no matter how you move, you can't make
yourself feel better, so you suffer with this numb, cannot relax your
muscles, feeling.  Luckily, this feeling did not last long and I
started to feel basically normal again.  The whole thing lasted about
15min.
Dissolved potassium cyanide begins to work the instant you start
trying to swallow it.  The first reaction is the slight burn/numbing
feeling you get as it hits your tongue and mouth.  The next feeling is
you start to feel a little of the numbness in your nose as you
continue breathing.  The next feeling hits the head as the KCN starts
taking you down.
I did not go unconscious, maybe I would have if I had taken more.
But, I think that dying from KCN poisoning is very uncomfortable with
the nausea unless you do go unconscious.
I have read that you could lose consciousness in a couple of minutes
if you take 200 to 1500mg of the stuff.  I have placed some of the KCN
in some gelcaps that I bought from the health food store.
Maybe this will allow me to ingest the necessary 1.5g, but I am scared
of it not making me unconscious instantly.
Does anyone else have any experience or suggestions with this?

Everything i looked up says that a lethal dose is 200-300 mg.  What's
this about 1.5 grams?
You really want to go by cyanide?  It's what Jim Jones fed to his
'followers'.  I've heard the tape of their deaths and it sounds
agonizing.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

This is the information I got from one website:http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/suicideguide.htm
Potassium Cyanide (KCN) Consumption
If you've got some potassium cyanide, or know where you can get some,
Take a small glass of cold tap water; do not use mineral water, nor
any kind of juice or soda water, due to the acidity of such liquids.
Stir 1g (or 1.5g, at most) of potassium cyanide (KCN) into the water;
using more than recommended will likely cause burning of the throat
due to the acidity.
After about five minutes—this "waiting period" is important, as a
chemical reaction needs to take place—the KCN will be dissolved and
ready to drink (because it has turned into HCN). It remains drinkable
for a period of several hours, but not much more than that.
Once the concoction is drunk, consciousness will be lost within a
minute. There will be just time to rinse out the glass (to ensure that
no one else accidentally drinks from it—however, one could just as
easily put a big "Warning" label onto the glass, or throw it into a
corner or a fireplace, if one doesn't want to take the time) and lie
down. But beware—a person extremely weakened by illness might lose
consciousness within twenty seconds.
While in the coma, death will follow in fifteen to forty-five minutes,
depending on the physical strength of the person and whether the
stomach is full or empty (an empty stomach promotes faster death).
During the coma period, the dying person will breathe heavily or
snore, similarly to people who have taken a lethal dose of
barbiturates [See  below.].
[Hans] Atrott notes that with a person who is seriously terminally
ill, death is so peaceful that often doctors do not detect suicide,
and sign the death certificate as being from natural causes.
—Final Exit, by Derek Humphry, The Hemlock Society, 1991, pp. 44-5.
This is also the German Society for Humane Dying's recommended suicide
method, as related by Derek Humphry. If anyone else has information we
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From Wiki:

Cyanide makes the cells of an organism unable to use oxygen.
Inhalation of high concentrations of cyanide causes a coma with
seizures, apnea and cardiac arrest, with death following in a matter
of minutes. At lower doses, loss of consciousness may be preceded by
general weakness, giddiness, headaches, vertigo, confusion, and
perceived difficulty in breathing. At the first stages of
unconsciousness, breathing is often sufficient or even rapid, although
the state of the victim progresses towards a deep coma, sometimes
accompanied by pulmonary edema, and finally cardiac arrest. Skin
colour goes pink from cyanide-haemoglobin complexes. A fatal dose for
human can be as low as 1.5mg/kg body weight[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_poisoning

[ForMyMoms]

Post by ForMyMoms
I had 25gms of Potassium Cyanide and tried the method where you
dissolve 1.5g in water and drink last night.  Obviously I was
unsuccessful...the reason is because I could not scarf down the liquid
because it was too noxious.
I was also a little scared of how it might feel.  So to test, I poured
a cup of Sprite into an 8oz styrofoam cup and put what amounts to
maybe 1mg (like one sprinkle from a salt shaker) into the cup.  It
immediately fizzed and dissolved.  I could drink this because the
bitter flavor and the slight numbing/burning sensation was not so
noticeable.
Let me tell you, I did not even drink the whole 8oz, just maybe 4oz.
before I started getting sick.  My vision changed a little (as if
someone had dimmed the lights) and I began to feel as if I had just
inhaled a bunch of helium or glue.  I did not lose consciousness,
probably because of the tiny amount.  I did become nauseous and threw
up all the liquid I had been drinking.  After I threw up my whole body
started to feel the same numbness that my nose had felt and it was
very uncomfortable because no matter how you move, you can't make
yourself feel better, so you suffer with this numb, cannot relax your
muscles, feeling.  Luckily, this feeling did not last long and I
started to feel basically normal again.  The whole thing lasted about
15min.
Dissolved potassium cyanide begins to work the instant you start
trying to swallow it.  The first reaction is the slight burn/numbing
feeling you get as it hits your tongue and mouth.  The next feeling is
you start to feel a little of the numbness in your nose as you
continue breathing.  The next feeling hits the head as the KCN starts
taking you down.
I did not go unconscious, maybe I would have if I had taken more.
But, I think that dying from KCN poisoning is very uncomfortable with
the nausea unless you do go unconscious.
I have read that you could lose consciousness in a couple of minutes
if you take 200 to 1500mg of the stuff.  I have placed some of the KCN
in some gelcaps that I bought from the health food store.
Maybe this will allow me to ingest the necessary 1.5g, but I am scared
of it not making me unconscious instantly.
Does anyone else have any experience or suggestions with this?

Everything i looked up says that a lethal dose is 200-300 mg.  What's
this about 1.5 grams?
You really want to go by cyanide?  It's what Jim Jones fed to his
'followers'.  I've heard the tape of their deaths and it sounds
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I also heard of the 200 to 300mg lethal dose, but wanted to make sure
I die, so I thought of going with the 1.5g dose.

What tape are you talking about as far as Jonestown? Do you have a
link to it? After trying to drink a potassium cyanide laced drink
last night, I really do not see how all those people managed to down
that stuff. It is really hard to swallow after it is dissolved
because it's so noxious. My main concern is that I go quickly and as
pain free as possible.

[leeana]

Post by ForMyMoms

Post by ForMyMoms
I had 25gms of Potassium Cyanide and tried the method where you
dissolve 1.5g in water and drink last night.  Obviously I was
unsuccessful...the reason is because I could not scarf down the liquid
because it was too noxious.
I was also a little scared of how it might feel.  So to test, I poured
a cup of Sprite into an 8oz styrofoam cup and put what amounts to
maybe 1mg (like one sprinkle from a salt shaker) into the cup.  It
immediately fizzed and dissolved.  I could drink this because the
bitter flavor and the slight numbing/burning sensation was not so
noticeable.
Let me tell you, I did not even drink the whole 8oz, just maybe 4oz.
before I started getting sick.  My vision changed a little (as if
someone had dimmed the lights) and I began to feel as if I had just
inhaled a bunch of helium or glue.  I did not lose consciousness,
probably because of the tiny amount.  I did become nauseous and threw
up all the liquid I had been drinking.  After I threw up my whole body
started to feel the same numbness that my nose had felt and it was
very uncomfortable because no matter how you move, you can't make
yourself feel better, so you suffer with this numb, cannot relax your
muscles, feeling.  Luckily, this feeling did not last long and I
started to feel basically normal again.  The whole thing lasted about
15min.
Dissolved potassium cyanide begins to work the instant you start
trying to swallow it.  The first reaction is the slight burn/numbing
feeling you get as it hits your tongue and mouth.  The next feeling is
you start to feel a little of the numbness in your nose as you
continue breathing.  The next feeling hits the head as the KCN starts
taking you down.
I did not go unconscious, maybe I would have if I had taken more.
But, I think that dying from KCN poisoning is very uncomfortable with
the nausea unless you do go unconscious.
I have read that you could lose consciousness in a couple of minutes
if you take 200 to 1500mg of the stuff.  I have placed some of the KCN
in some gelcaps that I bought from the health food store.
Maybe this will allow me to ingest the necessary 1.5g, but I am scared
of it not making me unconscious instantly.
Does anyone else have any experience or suggestions with this?

Everything i looked up says that a lethal dose is 200-300 mg.  What's
this about 1.5 grams?
You really want to go by cyanide?  It's what Jim Jones fed to his
'followers'.  I've heard the tape of their deaths and it sounds
agonizing.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I also heard of the 200 to 300mg lethal dose, but wanted to make sure
I die, so I thought of going with the 1.5g dose.
What tape are you talking about as far as Jonestown?  Do you have a
link to it?  After trying to drink a potassium cyanide laced drink
last night, I really do not see how all those people managed to down
that stuff.  It is really hard to swallow after it is dissolved
because it's so noxious.  My main concern is that I go quickly and as
pain free as possible.- Hide quoted text -
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Well, KCN is not going to be 'pain free'.

The children start screaming quite loudly at around 5 minutes as their
parents are murdering them.

P.S. Jim Jones died the next day from a gunshot wound to the head. I
figure it's because the bastard saw first hand how agonizing it was to
die with the cyanide and he was too much of a coward to suffer like
all the rest of his people did.

[California Psychopomp]

Several decades ago two North Korean agents planted a bomb on an
airplane which exploded after their departure from said airplane. They
were detained in a Middle Eastern airport on suspicion and both of them
ingested Cyanide capsules. One of them (an older male) went stiff and
fell down, the other (a younger woman) survived.

I would never recommend this method, although I've read (in Geo Stone's
book?) that you should use two gelatin capsules (a smaller one inside of
a larger one) to hold the Cyanide and ingest it that way.

If you hope to lose consciousness after ingestion you'll need to use a
larger amount of Cyanide.